The JB Musical Gear/Tab Thread, Guitars/Amps/Effects/Etc...

Sounds pretty sweet. How did you acquire the Quad? They don't make them anymore. I want me one of dem tings.

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That's really cool! It does sound uncannily like "Chocolate".

I don't think he had it in his Sin-é days. He doesn't really have any effects other than reverb in the Sin-é recordings. I'm guessing he got it sometime in late '93. He probably purchased it with this Columbia money. He also didn't have the Seymour Duncan bridge pickup at that point. I guess he got the pickup and Quad around the same time.

Are there any problems with your unit? I'm cynical aboot buying anything that is used. Especially something over the internet that I can't test first. But I still want one.

Do you know how the Midiverb compares to what you have? Do you know if the newer Alesis units have the same options as the Quad? I wonder if it would be better to get something more modern?

Yes I still have the Cyber Twin SE. How did you remember that? It's a nice amp. Gives me a lot to play with. I still need to get my Seymour Duncan Rail pickup on the bridge of my Tele to complete my Jeff Tele model. I don't have any pics but this is just the same.

Looking at the Dream Brother video on Grace Around the World it appears that he is still using the original bridge pickup. And that was shot on December 2, '94.

Have you noticed that they tagged the Lover, You Should've Come Over performance date as November 8, 1994? They screwed that up. That night he was playing at the Green Mill in Chicago. May 13, '95 was the Metro gig.

Ok, let's talk about Jeff's sound/tabs. Do you have any idea how Jeff created that scratchy, delay sound in this version of Dream Brother at the 1:49 mark?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhd-zImzoiI#movie_player

That's sick. Sounds almost identical. All you did was mute the strings and slap them? It looks as if Jeff slides his pick up the neck a little ways on the Chicago DVD. It's hard to tell though because of the angle. How much did you pay for your Quad? What happens once the internal battery dies? Won't it become obsolete since the product is no longer in production?

See if you can give me some help with a tab for the MTV Grace performance. I've been trying to figure out the breakdown Jeff and Michael play at the 3:15-3:37 mark.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3x-6ptw62w

This is what I have so far. For the first run I combine what Jeff and Michael played.


e--0--0--0--0--9--5-----------7--9---10--9-------11--12--14--17---
B--0--4--5--7-10--7--8--10--8--10--12--10------10--12--14--15---
G--0--2--4--6--9--7--9--11--9--11--11--11------11--12--14--16---
D--2--4--5--7--0--0--9--11-------------------14----------------------
A--x--x--x--x--x--0----------------------------14----------------------
D--2--4--5--7--9--0----------------------------14----------------------

Cont'd

e--14--15--14--0---
B--14--14--14--0---
G--14--14--14--3---
D---------------- 2---
A-----------------2---
D---------------- 2--- Pardon the sloppy alignment.

Edited by Tequila Vampire - 20/1/2010, 22:45

Seems like they didn't do the best job designing the Quad, functionally speaking.

If you have time try to give a shot at what Michael plays during the first run of that progression.

Another couple things I've always wondered...In the Sketches Disc 1 take of Nightmares By The Sea do you know how that eerie, slightly muffled tone on Jeff's guitar during the intro riff was created? In the original mix (Disc 2 version) his guitar in the intro sounds a lot twangier by comparison. I'm wondering if the Disc 1 rendition is just some studio effect made by Andy Wallace? And in the disc 2 version as the 2nd riff kicks in (just before Jeff sings "Don't know what you asked for")...Any idea how he got that roaring guitar sound?

You're asking the wrong person about recording gear, effects. I don't know anything really. As for the eerie guitar intro I assume that was all Wallace's doing as that isn't the original recording. I don't know why he took out that roaring guitar effect. His version during that section sounds so flat and boring. But everything else beats the Verlaine mix. Thanks for the file. How did you lower Jeff's vocal level?

We should try to figure out what Jeff and Michael played during the improvised portion of the live versions of Mojo Pin after the giant vocal wale. In the Chicago DVD Michael appears to be playing this.

e---------------20--------------20---------------------------------------
B------18---------------18--------------17------17------17------17h18
G----------17---------------17--------------17---------------17--------
D--17---------------17--------------17---------------17----------------
A--------------------------------------------------------------------------
D--------------------------------------------------------------------------

You know what? That eerie guitar effect in the intro of Nightmares is the same effect used in the main riff of Come As You Are by Nirvana. Both songs were mixed by Andy Wallace. So it's definitely his doing rather than Jeff and Kurt. I really want to find out how to get that sound for my own sake. I would love to use it on some of my own music.

There's so much stuff on Sketches that intrigues me. All of Back in N.Y.C. especially, the ending. He has a million things going on at once that I can't figure out.

How do you know which peddle Jeff used? Are you just taking a guess? The intro riff of Nightmares and the live So Real intro is the same effect then eh?

The So Real intro sounds amazing. Good job. Would you mind tabbing out the improvised live part? After hearing that I definitely need to get me a Quad, pronto. I think I already asked you this but what are you using to record? The clarity is awesome.

That mic plugs into computers?

Did you install that Seymour Duncan pickup on your guitar yourself? Is the difference in tone really noticeable?